KUALA LUMPUR, 7 August 2014: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.
This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.
In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”.
This new revelation was posted on Global Research, an independent research and media organization.
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Dang - McCain is going to be soooo disappointed.
ReplyDeleteNothing that LandDestroyer hasn't been saying all along.
So, how about those sanctions on Russia???
Chess and checkers. :)
DeleteSo difficult, you know, with this dang "alternative" Media that keeps getting the Truth out there, and the Establishment just can't keep up in their lying lies. Chess & Checkers, indeed ... grrrr....
ReplyDeletehis dang "alternative" Media that keeps getting the Truth out there, and the Establishment just can't keep up in their lying lies.
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Wow Sioux you really nailed it that time.
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Firstly the chain of evidence on any such materials is impossible to verify. Secondly in times of war neither side is trustworthy or beyond manufacturing evidence. The Ukrainian struggle for freedom from Russian oppression is centuries old and only finally found its fulfillment in the collapse of the Soviet Union. They now see that long sought freedom threatened but 25 years later. They are no more inclined to roll over and play dead for Putin's aggression than were the newly independent Americans in 1812.
ReplyDeleteTo possibly condemn the Ukrainian peoples to the return of Russian oppression simply because the Obama administration is doing the right thing for the wrong reasons would be a disservice to reason, history, the Ukrainian people and human dignity. Think carefully and learn the history before jumping to conclusions based upon distaste for the current occupant of the White House.
Anyone interested should start with Timothy Synder's Bloodlands. Anyone with a Nook or similar reader can search on "Ukrainian History" and find numerous documents and lectures documenting Russian brutalization of the Ukraine that go back a hundred years. Sadly there are many who can't be bothered to make even the most basic of exploration before making conclusions.
The Russians have provided some actual evidence that they didn't do this. All we have from our Govt. and NATO talking heads is blibber blabber, but no concrete evidence. With all the satellites and radars and other technology, there should be something for our side to offer. Just because there is some very bad history in this region of the world doesn't mean we have to start another war over it. It is very much relevant who now sits in the WHITE HOUSE: Our PINO hates America and all that we stand for, and that is a FIRST for our country.
ReplyDeleteOur PINO hates America and all that we stand for, and that is a FIRST for our country.
DeleteAgreed. Thanks.
I don't define "actual" as produced by the Russians. Produced being the operative word. Both sides are more than capable of such "production". Should we forget (1) that the process of changing borders by military force has been off the table since the end of WWII, that is until Putin came along. and (2) Russia has never apologized to the Ukrainians for the Holodomor or to the world in general for the horrors of the Gulag and all the other monstrous crimes of the Soviet regime. Neither should we forget that a military honor guard still stands at Lenin's tomb.
DeleteUkraine President Viktor Yushchenko. needed nothing better than to have a passenger jet liner shot down to blame both pro-Russians and Russia for....The perfect sales pitch for Western Allies. The EU and US were also looking for corroboration and allegiance against Russia...Pardon my language, but Obama has a hardon for Putin.
ReplyDeleteViktor Yushchenko.is slaughtering innocent civilians and Putin has said from the get go they were his responsibility as Russians! And though I think Putin a low life murderer himself, he will not allow Russians to be abused by this Ykranian devil, and he is just that.
By the way, why haven't they addressed why this Jet liner was diverted over a no fly zone 100s of miles from it original flight plan, that has yet to be explained?
Kiev with Obama's backing started it all and the diversion, as well as many other questions will never be addressed unless advantageous to one side or the other.
DeleteLook I know I am in a small majority on this issue but…… trying to judge this conflict or any conflict or assign motives from within the vacuum of contemporary events is folly. We would not judge the events in Gaza solely on the basis on what has transpired since Israel withdrew from Gaza and Hamas took control. So why then judge the events in Ukraine on the sole basis of Obama or John Kerry’s meddling?
DeleteAs I have said before peoples that have suffered generations of murder and oppression, caught in the middle of their more powerful neighbors geo-political power games and wars don’t often develop or even have the opportunity to develop sophisticated political institutions capable of getting beyond a centuries old cultural hatred.
That does not mean they should be denied the opportunity to develop over time the political sophistication we expect of our own institutions just because our political leadership has abandoned those very qualities and we deeply resent them for it.
I very much doubt Obama and his minions either know or care that supporting Ukrainian aspirations for independence is the right thing to do largely because they are doing it for the wrong reasons of trying to promote, extend and maintain the FED’s and the City of London’s financial hegemony over both Ukraine and Russia.
All that said I have to thank Brock for at least facilitating this debate. Most other sites would simply ban contrary opinion.
Contrary? I thought you were on my side.......:) Thanks.
DeleteJeffrey asks a darn good question about why this plane was flying over a war zone clearly way off the flight path. Did anyone see the photos of the recovered suitcases? Just a bit charred from the fireball - no prob 'splaining that either.
ReplyDeleteJust a war zone, nothing to see here.......
Deleteno one is asking about the Malaysian airline that disappeared a little while ago either... hmmm....
ReplyDeleteWhat Malaysian airliner.......? :)
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